Kaveri Hybrid CrossFire: A10-7850K/7700K With R7 240 & 250
Setting Up Dual Graphics (Hybrid CrossFire) With Kaveri

Before you even get started with the Dual Graphics/ Hybrid CrossFire setting up process you first have to select an appropriate graphics card appropriate for your APU. AMD’s recommendations are seen below, however, we’ve chosen to do things slightly different. We paired up the A10-7850K with the Sapphire R7 250 2GB DDR3 graphics card and the A10-7700K with the XFX R7 240 1GB DDR3 passive graphics card, both pictured above. We feel if you’re buying into the A8-7600 you’re unlikely to want to CrossFire discrete graphics as the A8-7600’s main selling point is its low power – adding a discrete graphics card ruins that advantage. All Kaveri APUs will work with any “Oland” based R7 series graphics card meaning in theory you can use the R7 240 (Oland Pro) and R7 250 (Oland XT) with any APU. Note that only Oland GPUs work, the R7 250X is “Cape Verde” and the R7 260(X) are “Bonaire” so will not.
You may also be thinking, why DDR3 models? Well this is simple. The APU uses system memory, your system memory is DDR3 and its speed determines the graphics memory speed of your APU graphics. If you use DDR3-2000MHz memory then you should use an R7 240 or R7 240 that also uses DDR3 memory of a similar frequency. Using a GDDR5 card will bring no benefit because both cards have to operate at the same frequencies to work as far as I am aware. Therefore if you have 5GHz GDDR5 you are no better off than with 2GHz DDR3 in Dual Graphics. This obviously means that the faster your system memory is, which is effectively the bottleneck in an APU system, the faster your graphics card can run and the better the overall performance is. However, the caveat to this is that APUs are often budget systems so you’re unlikely to have expensive high speed memory, most people will opt for something in the 1600-2133MHz range as this is where it is most affordable.

Once you’ve got your GPU the setting up process is relatively streamlined if you know what you’re doing. You can use either the APU or the graphics card as your primary display device, it doesn’t matter too much which way around you choose but both options have small differences. If you’re using the APU you will not be able to overclock the graphics card but you can still run Dual Graphics. If you’re using the PCIe device the following must be true:
- The PCIe is set to your primary GPU in your BIOS; this means selecting that over the iGPU option
- Your monitor should be connected to your PCIe graphics card
- You must enabled the equivalent “iGFX Multi Monitor” option in your BIOS, or something that is equivalent
- You must not have force iGPU enabled in the BIOS, this setting must be set to auto or disabled.
Note when choosing the APU as the primary display device a similar issue applies. You must have iGPU as the primary GPU and your monitor must be connected to the motherboard. You must also still have the “iGFX Multi Monitor” equivalent option enabled and the “force iGPU” equivalent option disabled or set to auto.
Once you’ve met the above parameters you can charge into your operating system. Upon arriving into your operating system you will need to install the latest AMD drivers for optimal performance, we are using the Catalyst 14.1 Beta 7 drivers provided to us by AMD.

Once into your operating system AMD Dual Graphics should be enabled by default. If it isn’t enabled, or you just want to double check, then you can do so by visiting the AMD Catalyst Control Centre. The AMD Radeon Dual Graphics tab is under the Gaming tab. If it does not appear it means your system is not set up correctly to enable it, so please refer back to the instructions at the top of this page to make sure your system is ready for it.
To enabled frame pacing you can do so from the 3D Application Settings drop down. See the below image for more details.



















Damm, your a fast worker Ryan…excellent
Thanks! And to that comment ^ yes I think you’re right too. I’m not 100% how Dual Graphics normalises the cards but as far as I know they have to operate at the same GPU core frequency and GPU memory frequency, in that sense the APU holds back the discrete cards which are clocked much higher but in terms of shaders I think all 512 on the APU are able to be used with the 384 on the discrete card though you may be right that the number of shaders have to be normalised to 384 on both units too.
I built an FM1 system when the apu’s first appeared, with a 6670, I found I could overclock the apu with my ram, but as soon as I tried to run DG, the performance was actually worse than just running the 6670 alone, I had to let the apu run at stock to get decent fps with DG enabled, the 6670 was running ddr3, so I tried a ddr5 card, overclocked again, and found that performance was slightly better, but still, not as good as the apu or 6670 running alone, I also tried overclocking the ram and clock speed on the 6670’s, without overclocking the apu but found the performance increase was only around 5%, I concluded that the apu is downclocked to the gpu specs, specifically, the shader cores and core speed on the apu are locked to the cards gpu specs when running DG, but not the memory, overclocking the system ram gave me serious problems, hence the terrible performance when trying to run an overclocked apu with a stock 6670, my advice is this, if you plan to overclock an apu, dont invest in another gpu, as the performance will not be as good as you think, run everything at stock and you should see 100-60% scaling depending on what apu+gpu combo you get, as it is, the best combo for DG at the moment is a A8 7600 and a R7 240 gddr3, the bang for buck is seriously impressive, what would be nice, would be a specific A10 DG card for the 7850k chip, with 512 shader cores, but AMD will never sanction a card like that.
and can you guess how many cmos resets I had to perform to learn that lot ??? lol…
took me over a hundred to pair an a8 5500 with r5230 (had to flash r5 to older version 6450)
seems the fact your limited to bonaire cards is hurting performance, with the A10 7850k, your effectively dropping down to the R7 250’s lower spec of 384 shaders….
Herkese türkiye den selamlar r7 260x amd 10 7850k işlemci ile uyumlu mudur ? başka hiçbir yerde uyumlu olduğu söylenmiyor. Google translate den bu kadar :
Greetings to everyone from turkey r7 is compatible with 260x processor amd 10 7850? It does not say anywhere else is compatible. Google translate so well:)
It is “compatible” but you cannot use the GPU on the R7 260X and A10-7850K at the same time. Aka the A10-7850K will work but only as a CPU while you use the R7 260X as a GPU, hybrid crossfire X does not work with an R7 260X.
but u can bios flash the 260x to get it to a 260 that will work for dg look up rebadges and find one that works for ur setup download bios install
I bought r7 260x dual graphics alone can not. Catalyst dual graphics is not doing well. Although I’ve Bios settings. Is there a solution?
Dual Graphics is not compatible with the R7 260X. You’ll have to just use the R7 260X on its own.
Think he would have researched tha tbefore spending that k ind of money, hahahaahahaha
download atiwinflash see if u can flash ur card to a working dg setup I had to flash a r5 230 to a hd6450 (same hardware just a rebadge)
you seem to have forgot something.let’s say we would buy an A88X mother board and 750K+R7 260X which is GDDR 5 PCIe 3.0 graphic card.to use the PCIe 3.0 on the motherboard they would require you to use an AMD APU.so how would we deal with PCIe 2.0 bottle neck issues?i’m going to buy a system but i got 600$ only.i’m having a hard time choosing 7850K APU due to its incompatibility with R7 250X
PCIe2.0 16X will not bottleneck any single GPU card compared to PCIe 3.0 16X. If you used a dual GPU config you might see a 3-5% performance hit.
This.
Guys, stop worrying about PCIE 3.0, it’s a marketing gimmick, no real gains for graphics really.
I rock two HD 7870GHZ 2gb overclocked on a z68 i7 system using two PCIE 2.0 8x slots and they work FLAWLESSLY.
Can’t dual graphics with the 260X. Needs to have no power connector. Besides, a 7850K and the R7 250 still make some very promising numbers especially while gaming in 1080P.
can a 7850k dual
Graphics with this http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-Radeon-GDDR5-PCI-Express-GV-R725XOC-2GI/dp/B00J01IVQU/ref=sr_1_60?ie=UTF8&qid=1408067892&sr=8-60&keywords=r7+250
Please i need your help
No I don’t think so. R7 250 only (not 250X).
the x can be added or removed by flashing bios
Hey Gayle, when you flash the bios, do you lose the extra shaders? For example – since this benchmark mentions losses going from the 7850’s 512 shaders to 384 – if you flash a 250X to a 250 would that be a way to run 512 on both?
the 250x is a rebadged some other gpu, whish isnt compatable.
Hi guys i did find a r7 250 4gb ddr3 can i pairit with my a10-7850k apu graphics ???
Yes, as long as it is the DDR3 (NOT GDDR5) variant of the R7 250 line of cards.
Yes, although, you won’t find much of a performance bump (I have the same build).
My personal computer has the AMD A10 7850 Kaveri and an AMD Radion R5 235 graphics and with 16Gibytes of memory and a 3Tibytes of Hard-drive and got rid of MS Windows 8.1 and running Linux Mint 17 Cinnamon (Qiana) 64bit and have not had many problems except a little problem which is fixed now so is a very good system overall.
My personal computer has the AMD A10 7850 Kaveri and an AMD Radion R5 235 graphics and with 16Gibytes of memory and a 3Tibytes of Hard-drive and got rid of MS Windows 8.1 and running Linux Mint 17 Cinnamon (Qiana) 64bit and have not had many problems except a little problem which is fixed now so is a very good system overall.
My personal computer has the AMD A10 7850 Kaveri and an AMD Radion R5 235 graphics and with 16Gibytes of memory and a 3Tibytes of Hard-drive and got rid of MS Windows 8.1 and running Linux Mint 17 Cinnamon (Qiana) 64bit and have not had many problems except a little problem which is fixed now so is a very good system overall.
I’m so confused by the test, the r7 250 should be paired with the a10 7700k. The dual graphics will run at the lowest stream count which is 384 and the 7850k has 512, it’s a complete waste to use anything over the 7700k in dual graphics with anything less than the r7 250 2gb ddr3
There actually actually two Graphics subsystems installed on my computer the one inside the APU and the one that was installed into the PCIE socket which I am using at the moment but I am going to remove the black cover on the VGA connector on the back of my machine which should enable both graphics subsystems on my personal computer.
GUYS HELP, I CANT SEEM TO GET THE DUAL GRAPHICS OPTION IN CATALYST
PC SPECS:
mobo: Gigabyte – F2A68HM-S1
cpu: A10-7700K
Saphire Radeon R7 240 – DDR5
DDR3 – 12GB
TRIED DOING:
*Connect VGA to Build GPU
*FORCED GPU TO 1GB
*2 Ram stick -1 8gb 1 4gb total of – 12 GB – RAM – 1866MHz running
*Catalyst Driver updated to latest
ddr5 wont work
I am not so sure. Am pretty sure some reviews use gddr5 r7s hybrid crossfired.
I have a asus R7 240 graphics card and also a A-10 7850 CPU, are they capable of crossfire???
Yep!
comprei uma xfx r7 250x para fazer hibryd com o processador a 10 7850k,o problema é que nem a ventuinha dela roda ja mudei na bios mais nada adiantou
alguem pode me ajudar?
a xfx r7 250x diz no manual que é compativel com hibryd crossfire
Blz tenho um processador a10 7850k ,placa mãe a88x sniper gigabite,4 x 4gb de memoria ddr3 de 1886 mhz,fonte EVGA 600 whats plus bronze,water cooler.
Vamos lá, comprei há 3 dias uma placa de video xfx r7 250x para fazer hybrid crosfire com o processador,como vários comentários diziam que sim e alguns não era compatível ,até na especificação da placa de video diz que ela faz hybrid crosfire.
Quando coloquei no meu pc não consegui de jeito nenhum ,já tentei pela bios,troquei as entradas uma hora coloco na vga e outra coloco no pc,quando abro o catalyst nao aparece nada .
no amd radeon settings ,aparece as 2 placas sempre uma ativa e a outra desabilitada quando troco a entrada dos cabos uma desabilita e a outra fica ligada ou vice versa.me ajudem se tiver uma maneira de fazer o hybrid
What seems unclear from posts here is that in seruo, u can opt for “disable hybrid for for non crossfire apps”, which results in the pc soley using the presumably faster discrete gpu.
whats not clear to me is what happens w/ cabl connections etc. are they normally commected to the mobo or the r7?
are swaps needed depending on mode – single or dual gpu?
what r implications for multi monitor?